"hey guys - here's the scoop on Sketchfu. We're going to keep it running and have all the drawings going indefinitely. So that's the good news. We won't pull the plug and will keep the servers going.
On the other hand, we haven't been working on new features for the site in a long time - the reason is that Matt and I are very busy doing work on another project, which will eventually also involve drawing. This will take a lot more time to build, and has consumed all our time. The ads on Sketchfu is only making us like $50/month, which means we're losing a little money each month. It's not a big deal, but obviously we won't be making our paychecks using the site :)
Sorry to be out of touch, and I hope you can continue enjoying the site for what it is :) Thanks."
"thank you for all the feedback - Matt and I will look through all of this and try to figure out something simple that we can do. We definitely appreciate your opinions, since you guys now know more about the site than we do!
Let's keep discussing this, and if you guys have more ideas, please post and tell us."
"Hi everyone, thanks for writing us on this topic. We've been working hard on this from the start of the site, because the remixing is both the heart of the site as well as the source for some of this friction.
Here are some of the things we've worked on over the last couple months to make it easier for people to spot the originals, avoid defacement, and own their work:
1) Originally, we didn't even have attributions - we added "Based on this drawing" and showed the chain of ownership
2) We didn't have the ability to delete drawings at the beginning, and we specifically developed that ability to remove drawings that were offensive.
3) We also made a new feature to be able to ban bad users that were repeat offenders, and have done so with a bunch of people.
4) We added a "download picture" link for people to store the originals of their drawings, for future use
5) We added some drawing management functions like deletion of your own stuff, in order to make it so that things like WIP or other drawings don't end up getting remixed accidentally.
I think the real heart of this issue is that when a drawing is getting remixed, how does the system automatically figure out whether it's a GOOD addition, or a BAD addition? And what controls do we give to people that respect both the art of the adders, as well as the original artists?
At the extreme, it's clear (at least to me) that taking out remixing is a bad idea. And at the other extreme, having remixes without attributions is also a bad idea. What's the right mix?
I've heard a couple suggestions:
1) Add a members-only section with dues and criteria for "regulars"
2) Remove the ability for remixers to undo any strokes, so that you don't have people undo-ing signatures
3) Adding a report abuse button
4) Letting any original artist delete or hide the work of a remixer
... what else? If you guys can create a nice bulleted list that continues on the one I have above, it would really help Matt and I during this discussion.
Again, please realize that remixing is at the heart of Sketchfu, and one person's "hijack" is another person's artistic reinterpretation. We need to be respectful of everyone's contributions to the site."
Hi Andrew! I was here from beginning, and now i have a programming problem, witch i see is running smooth on sketchfu. I think you guys can help me out in this situation. Please drop me a mail at my email, i would explain my problem. Thanks in advance: gakkaman!
Can I add you? It's awesome that you help run this site! Have you seen any of my pictures? Oh and not long ago there was a Proxy Error for Sketchfu and I couldn't get on. Do you know why? Oh and by the way, do you like anime???
Andrew...I have been coming here for almost a year and love it so, but I have come to my last straw and would love for this to be a wake-up call for the site to return to it's former glory! I have been working on a picture of my daughter for quite a while now. I have put many, many hours into it because I want it to really be a perfect image of her...but the problem is that I have to publish it often so that I can return to it to contintue. Several times now when I go to publish it, it hangs there for quite a while then goes to a " proxy error" message. Before, at that point, I felt that all I could do was close out the page, and all the hours of work that I had just done disappeared. Then, by accident, I figured out that if I just clicked on the back key, it would be there in my gallary. So, on I trudged to get that picture of my daughter done. Then it happened again. I had spent hours changing and blending and making sure that the pic represented her as closely as I could make it represent her. I went through the same process of publishing it, waited as it took up to an hour to post, I actually fell asleep and when I woke up, the screen had a different message (something along the lines of the page not being found) and when I tried to do what I had done before, it only went back to the time before last that I had published a picture. So that means that I have to find the desire to start again and re-draw hours, probably 10 collectively, of progress that I had made on my daughter's picture. Do you have any idea how frustrating that is. How discouraging it is. This isn't just a cartoon, funny, doodle picture for me. I put a lof of effort and valuable time into coming here and using this site as a respite from hard work, cluttered mind, frustration with life...all those things that people need respite from...and it is very hard not to want to leave as a lot of other people have done. I don't know how much keeping regulars means to you, but if it means anything at all, you guys will try to fix at least this aspect of the problem on this site. Losing hours of work is just so disheartening. Thank you (if you happen to read all of this), I needed to get that off my chest! theSAPINator :)
Andrew...pleaseeeee get rid of everyones deleted drawings or something so we can move around here and not spend 20 minutes trying to comment or vote!! The lag is ^#%$&#G horrible.
Thanks very much.
Hi Andrew! I would like to be able to add you to my friend list so that when you make a statement or draw something pertaining to the site, I'd get it without just having to run into it! Thanks, SAPIN
Andrew ..i ned your help ! The user "Samy" from here , cannot acces sketchfu anymore , and as i can see his account also doesn`t work .when i click on it it brings me to a page where it says : " we`re sorry,something went wrong" . I think he has been banned or something but i cannot find a reason why he would be so. Pls do something,he is a regular user and quite popular, it is weird that this happens to him when he didn`t do something wrong . please do something about it,andrew :) thank you :)
Andrew, gege67 (user #25749) has stolen one of my drawings (red-eyed tree frog) and has stolen other artists' drawings. Can you please delete her drawing and prevent her from using this site. Thanks.
Hi Andrew..., this is the first time since I've signed up that I've had to report some idiot kid leaving some dumb comments on one of my pic's... something like this has never occured before and perhaps will not be the last ... Could you possibly remove the dragon picture he has taken and the rather nice comments he left... being sarcastic of course - :)) thanks in advance....
Dear Andrew
please will you help? My mother passed away on saturday, and as I had previously drawn her here I decided to use that drawing as a tribute to her. Someone had previously overdrawn my portrait by adding a cigarette to her mouth, which I was not happy about but just ignored. Now someone called imamhappy has written "spam spam spam" on my new drawing. Im afraid it has really upset me. I could just delete the drawing but would rather have their comments removed, and the drawing with the cigarette removed as well. Would you help me out and do this? Thank you in advance
regards
Christine
hi andrew, i think you don't remember me bcs i did not come here fore a long time but i used to be one of the 5 best drawers here, before those WATTERCOLOURS come and now noone cares about the drawings that used be the best now everyone are amazed by those profesional drawings and noone is commenting the drawings they are just waiting fore someone to comment on them,i think it was better without them... can you do something about that???
Hey, I heard about the financing troubles and when I was trying to find things for funding my website I came across a thing called (Pay Per Play-PPP) it looks like a great way to get money! Here to help- mmeeffbb your 12 year old friend. P.S. Sketch-Fu ROCKS!
Andrew, thanks for the response. I felt like I was stalking matt trying to get ya'll's attention one way or the other.
It was suggested to you guys a while back that many of us "older" artists would be more then happy to pay a fee to use, to have special members only section, but it would have to one that was maintained and worked consistently. Maybe with a few features the current site does not have like a way to private message.
There is, or rather was, a very strong community here of people committed to this site as artists and as friends. We like would nothing more then to see it succeed and work properly and are willing to put our money where our very vocal mouths are. FU is FUN and fantastic and the net has too few drawing communities. We know this takes time and money for you 2 and we would like to work with you find a solution that makes everyone happy and is fair to you both. We appreciate this lil spot on the net very much.
Hi Andrew. My name on here is theSAPINator. The name is derived from my dog, in a way. Anyway, I've been on Sketchfu for only 2 or 3 months, I forget right now. But the reason I'm writing this to you is that I just found out, really, who you were. I kept seeing chats of people talking about you and Matt and the problems on this site and how ya'll are the ones that would fix them, and yet so many people seem to be saying that ya'll have desserted the site. I'm a bit confused about it all. All i know is that for a short time about 2 weeks ago, things were working so well on here and it made the site as enjoyable as it was meant to be. Then things went directly south again. Can't move from picture to picture, or from any one thing to another. Can't publish anything...basically can't do anything. I guess I thought I'd put in my thoughts since I keep running into the problem and no one seems to have the answer! :) Thank You for listening and I hope to be hearing something about the problem and it's solution soon.
Hi andrew i'm CM for short or any other nickname works just wanted to also add the question that lucario asked of how come we can't have moving icons but if you click on someones profile pic. that some move but they won't move if you don't click on it.what i'm asking is that is there a way of you able to have the profile pics that move move without clicking on it but if you could work on this if you have time please look into this.
For ANYONE that has to do with URLing and html, maybe since this site can be so better, keep the drawings to a limit? I helped all that I can by deleting Pictures that I totally forgot was there or just didn't like it.
Wait, who am I talking to?
hey umm there is this person right
i asked nicely for him to delete a drawing that he copied and he wont do it!
i have spent hours and im getting REALLY mad, can u do something about it?
http://sketchfu.com/profile/KeenanL
Just wanted to say thanks for getting FU back up and running! I may actually be able to hold on to my sanity now.....lol. Hope you managed to hold on to yours to with all this madness.
Hi Matt and Andrew,
It seems that about 7 days ago I changed my picture icon, and now this site will not let me on as my original name: Snape.
It comes up as: "We're sorry, but something went wrong. We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly."
I tried the next day, then the next day, and it is the same box that comes up and says that. Sorry, but is it possible to fix it?
Thank you guys sooooo much!!
~Snape
Hey Andrew, just a little thanks for a fine job in getting things pretty much back to normal. You guys must've been bombarded with complaints. So here's a pat on the back for recognizing what must've been a difficult task to fix! Thanks again!!!!
Matt and Andrew, Really sorry to bother you again, but I am very concerned about the fact that the site is working for me except for my own profile page. The rest of the site is moving faster now. Maybe because so many prolific artists have left or maybe because you worked on it?
Could you please look into this for me? Thanks.
Hi Matt, I assume you are aware that there are numerous technical issues with Sketchfu of late.
I cannot access my profile at all. I have tried linking to it from my drawings, from comments I made on others drawings, etc. I can access some profiles, like this one. I am a regular here and would truly appreciate being able to fully access my account. Thanks.
I don't understand how web sites work enough to understand why I can access everyones profile but my own. As many others have mentioned, your "top" artists, the ones that show up on the first few pages of "most cheered of all time" are all leaving for other drawing sites.
Web 2.0 as it is being vcalled, is about networking, people, even people of my advanced age *L* are interested in meeting like minded people. We had a really good group here and it is sad to see how everyone has left for web sites that work reliably. I know this site was just a lark for you 2 and that Matt used t6o work for a site that remixed music, so this was an experiment to see what a remixed art site would do. Well, look at your stats, it did well enough for you to be able to attract Google advertising and make money off the site. At least, if yopu are not intending to fix it, make changes, deal with it, would you please do the regulars who have supported this site with their fantastic art work a big favor and tell us once and for all...what you see is what you get here. that way we could decide to leave or not. As drawing is time intense, many of us just cannot frequent more than site. thanks.
Hello
My name is Lilian i saw your contact todey in this sit and admire it i think we can make it together, therefore i would like you to contact me back throug my email address thus:(lilian_vaye@yahoo.co.uk) i will tell you more about myself and i will also send you my photo as soon as you contact me back. Hopping to hear from you soonest, UNDERSTAND THAT LOVE IS ONE,
Lilian WITH LOVE AND TRUST
Love & Kiss.
Do you not care about your own site?!?!?!?! I mourn for awesome lost users that left because of the lag. I'm staying though, I say so myself, that I do not like the lag.
Dear Andrew,
I would like to ask you what is happening to sketchfu. Its obviously a case that demand is outstripping supply. I have a broadband comnnection but the lag between trying to look at a drawing and getting there is immense. Are there any changes you could make to save space or reduce the server requirements- Im no expert but surely the amount people chat must take up bamdwidth, would it be feasable to remove earlier comments? Maybe the voting system could be limited to one per person? Or if required the drawing space could be reduced slightly- It must take megabites to keep this place up and running! i really do appreciate sketchfu, it is a wonderful site full of great people, but if you loose the artists you loose the site! New artists must take one look at the lag and give up! If sites such as 2draw can cope there must be a way round this....hoping (possibly in vain) for a response...sigh
Hi Andrew! I have to say you guys created a small Utopia. I have never experienced such a positive atmosphere of community as I have here at Sketchfu. Unfortnately... I am leaving and so many of your top artists .... views cheers etc. have wandered off due to a lack of response to requests especially to fix the lag. I am not an expert, but I am a business person and I would think your advertisers are of great importance. If you guys loose your best artists I find it hard to believe this will not impact your business and earning potential. Starshine left... QT Tillie left ... I am leaving, Aakyra, and we are your yop artists. Gerry (Gerbear) has pleaded for some changes ... many petitons have been circulated... many people are stirred by the problems as well as friends leaving for other sites. Perhaps you might look into this, only a suggestion! Thanks for everything! I have to tell you it was one of my most remarkable experiences! Thanks so much and Good luck!
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please will you help? My mother passed away on saturday, and as I had previously drawn her here I decided to use that drawing as a tribute to her. Someone had previously overdrawn my portrait by adding a cigarette to her mouth, which I was not happy about but just ignored. Now someone called imamhappy has written "spam spam spam" on my new drawing. Im afraid it has really upset me. I could just delete the drawing but would rather have their comments removed, and the drawing with the cigarette removed as well. Would you help me out and do this? Thank you in advance
regards
Christine
Are you EVER wrong? GEEZ!! Ha, just playing. I really do appreciate all of your reasonings and explanations.
It was suggested to you guys a while back that many of us "older" artists would be more then happy to pay a fee to use, to have special members only section, but it would have to one that was maintained and worked consistently. Maybe with a few features the current site does not have like a way to private message.
There is, or rather was, a very strong community here of people committed to this site as artists and as friends. We like would nothing more then to see it succeed and work properly and are willing to put our money where our very vocal mouths are. FU is FUN and fantastic and the net has too few drawing communities. We know this takes time and money for you 2 and we would like to work with you find a solution that makes everyone happy and is fair to you both. We appreciate this lil spot on the net very much.
Thak You,
CrecentMoon
Wait, who am I talking to?
Anwho, just forget about it. We people (that actually draw here) will stick together. Alliances UNITE!!
i asked nicely for him to delete a drawing that he copied and he wont do it!
i have spent hours and im getting REALLY mad, can u do something about it?
http://sketchfu.com/profile/KeenanL
Just wanted to say thanks for getting FU back up and running! I may actually be able to hold on to my sanity now.....lol. Hope you managed to hold on to yours to with all this madness.
Don't forget to enjoy the day!
Miss A.
It seems that about 7 days ago I changed my picture icon, and now this site will not let me on as my original name: Snape.
It comes up as: "We're sorry, but something went wrong. We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly."
I tried the next day, then the next day, and it is the same box that comes up and says that. Sorry, but is it possible to fix it?
Thank you guys sooooo much!!
~Snape
Could you please look into this for me? Thanks.
I cannot access my profile at all. I have tried linking to it from my drawings, from comments I made on others drawings, etc. I can access some profiles, like this one. I am a regular here and would truly appreciate being able to fully access my account. Thanks.
I don't understand how web sites work enough to understand why I can access everyones profile but my own. As many others have mentioned, your "top" artists, the ones that show up on the first few pages of "most cheered of all time" are all leaving for other drawing sites.
Web 2.0 as it is being vcalled, is about networking, people, even people of my advanced age *L* are interested in meeting like minded people. We had a really good group here and it is sad to see how everyone has left for web sites that work reliably. I know this site was just a lark for you 2 and that Matt used t6o work for a site that remixed music, so this was an experiment to see what a remixed art site would do. Well, look at your stats, it did well enough for you to be able to attract Google advertising and make money off the site. At least, if yopu are not intending to fix it, make changes, deal with it, would you please do the regulars who have supported this site with their fantastic art work a big favor and tell us once and for all...what you see is what you get here. that way we could decide to leave or not. As drawing is time intense, many of us just cannot frequent more than site. thanks.
My name is Lilian i saw your contact todey in this sit and admire it i think we can make it together, therefore i would like you to contact me back throug my email address thus:(lilian_vaye@yahoo.co.uk) i will tell you more about myself and i will also send you my photo as soon as you contact me back. Hopping to hear from you soonest, UNDERSTAND THAT LOVE IS ONE,
Lilian WITH LOVE AND TRUST
Love & Kiss.
(lilian_vaye@yahoo.co.uk)
I would like to ask you what is happening to sketchfu. Its obviously a case that demand is outstripping supply. I have a broadband comnnection but the lag between trying to look at a drawing and getting there is immense. Are there any changes you could make to save space or reduce the server requirements- Im no expert but surely the amount people chat must take up bamdwidth, would it be feasable to remove earlier comments? Maybe the voting system could be limited to one per person? Or if required the drawing space could be reduced slightly- It must take megabites to keep this place up and running! i really do appreciate sketchfu, it is a wonderful site full of great people, but if you loose the artists you loose the site! New artists must take one look at the lag and give up! If sites such as 2draw can cope there must be a way round this....hoping (possibly in vain) for a response...sigh
http://sketchfu.com/drawing/128293-no-more-laggs-dx-u-cant-even-imagine-how-many-time-dis-laggs-on-me-dx
i have a question
can u liek plz make sketchfu so that u can hide massages u get on ur prof