Heyloo Shero! ;) lol Thought I'd drop you a message! As it's been awhile since we've spoken! Hope you are all good! :o) X

Hey Alice.., thanks for stopping by.. - haven't been on here for a while but i will definately check your stuff out on floating ginko... Hope all is well with you my friend... Much hugs..!! :)

Thank you for your wonderfull comment amagic2u.Wonderful words of deep connection still... now I understand your nickname better... You are amagice2me! You are a wonderful person. ANd it is so strange that this day-7 may- was my fathers birthday. 26 years ago...already and never fades away from you. Strange coiincidance I write this just now. Perhaps there is less coiincidence then we think, in this world. I just wanted to give you a big *hug*. ferdifriend

Hi Alice... just wanted to say hello - the lag on this site today is terrible - hope all is well with you my friend.. :)

OMG Alice...I thought you were doing add on. I CANNOT SAY HOW SORRY I AM. I WILL DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY. PLEASE FORGIVE MY MISTAKE. THIS IS HORRIBLE OF COURSE WE ARE STILL FRIEND. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR PARENTS. DID YOU LOSE THEM RECENTLY. ALICE PLEASE BELIVE ME... I AM NOT A MEAN, VICIOUS PERSON. SORRY, SORRY, SORRY. HUGS AND LOVE

Hi. Your welcome. I should watch more of your works , they are really great.
P.S. thanks for adding I added you too. :)

That must be very difficult Amagic, losing ur parents in that way so fast. *hug*. I understand that u will missing them each day. I too, think at my father many times, when I lost him when I was 13. It's a lonely feeling isn't it? But somehow we learn immense from those tragedish. We know to cherish more than others that haven't had those experience. BUt if we could... we wish they werent away from us. We became 'wiser'- but somehow we always carrie some strange pain inside of us. *hug* ferdi,

Thank you for the cheers on my "Spring Fever" That is my mood at this time.LOL

Thanks for the greats...yes it is a fun dragon. I just had to do it!!!!:D Have a great day!

Thank you for adding me Amagic! (and did I knew u too from youdraw, long ago?). greetings ferdi

OK, cool then. 8D
And you and your Grandson have a good taste in music. ;3

haha whoa, that was fast! 0_O

xD what would you like for me to draw for ya?

BULLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!

if you are interested in knowing the reason I had to stop yahooing with you guys a couple of yrs ago, I would be happy to explain it in private. Bard already knows why, it was in my letter to her. I still have the jdesigner hotmail addy if you want to talk about it. I think I need to tell you.

Alice I appreciate your reply and your candor.
I read your letter a few times to make sure I was understanding what you were saying. I would ask that you please reread my last long note to you as I don't feel you got (and i probably explained it badly, I am not blaming you), the 2 points I was trying to make.

I understand that if someone draws above their "level" at 2Draw that they may get nasty or critical comments. I understand that the site owners set up rules and it is their rules and SHOULD be respected. Marcello can run 2draw any way he wants. he made this incredible drawing applet that hundreds use for free and we all who have used it and his site owe him a debt of gratitude. I have no quarrel with Marcello or the rules.

My problem is with people being mean. I feel that is unnecessary most of the time. I do think mistakes are made all the time. I have a draw that easily belongs in advanced but I have kept it in beginners even tho I had been urged to move it. It is hard for a person to judge their own work and I just dont understand why, the person who asks them to move it cannot just be nice. Maybe they are being nice, I am not there much ever to look even. But I do have friends come back and complain of being treated badly. I observed that when I was there so I just believed them.

anyhow, my point is, there are many drawings that are in the "correct" gallery, beginners, intermediate, whatever, and they still get very strict and critical critques. I know that the people who are leaving those comments think they are being helpful to the beginning artist, but my point is....from experience....most people cannot handle having their work critqued unless they ask for it. Most beginners are VERY insecure Alice and MY own PERSONAL way is to be very nice and treat their art with kid gloves. that is MY way.

I am a bit surprised that you take my mention of being a teacher and a critque giver as bragging. You missed that point completely. Completely!! I was NOT bragging. Good gawd Alice, you know me way better than that!! I was making the point that....this part is important...
..that I am as qualified as anyone to make CRITICAL critiques on anyones art but I CHOSE not to and to just give support and encouragement unless I am ASKED point blank by the artist for help.

My qualifications were not listed for bragging purposes, of course i know you know what I do. It was to say, I choose a path of support and encouragement to beginning and emerging artists as opposed to choosing a path of picking their drawings apart under the guise of being helpful.

that is the only way I know how to explain that. Sorry.

about Barb, I wrote her a very long and nice letter thru the 2draw message system a few months back. She finally responded, months later and basically suggested that I get lost. I have nothing against Barb, nothing. NOTHING>!!!! She has never done anything TO me except be mad at me for something that is not true. I am not mad at her because she is mad at me, that would be stupid. I am not mad at her. Or you. And I never was. Ever. but, I did do something that i am not proud of relating to when we used to talk on yahoo and then i stopped coming. This is what was in my letter to Barb and I was apologizing for not coming to talk any more and she told me that was not why she was mad at me. I was FLOORED. I had no idea what she was talking about. She explained it but to be frank, it was so many yrs ago, something about Catseye, that I dont even know what it was any more. That is the honest truth.

About my friend" situation, i understand what you are saying. But I do have several people i consider more then just acquaintances on here. We have emailed, continue to email outside of here. It is a small number but I trust those I speak privately with. They are just nice ladies, its that simple. I am also aware that the only reason I "appear" to be popular is because I spend hours looking at art here and commenting and voting. I dont do it to be popular. I do it because I just like looking at art, even bad art, cuz sometimes the artist improves and it is very exciting when they do. It is nice that what I do..the positive comments make people feel good. I would rather make a person feel good then make them feel badly. That is my "high"...knowing I made somebody smile, it is downright addicting and on here, it is so easy to do. So I do it. And I get thanked. I dont assume that 99% of the thankers are any more then acquaintances. Which is fine anyhow. Who wants 10,000 friends? *L* No one!! but I have made that few I mentioned and I know they are real friends, they have proved it to me in many ways, even the 3 new friends that I just met here on SketchFU.

well..I babbled.What else is new. I do hope I was a bit more clear Alice. And tell Barb, I am not mad at her or tell her to read this.
Life is too short for anger and grudges. You must know that. I know you do, you are a very smart woman.

I'm honored to be your friend - and don't worry I don't think I'll be joining the exodus to leave SF yet.. lol - perhaps never...:)))

BabsBlueEyes wrote (about 2 hours ago)
It is a virus...I am taking EmergenC OTC pain and fever reducers. It will just take a few days to feel better. My daughter in law had it, then my husband. No biggie! I posted this on my page two hrs ago. LOL

Hi Alice, Not ignoring your comment. I could not access
SF yesterday. Also My husband was sick with a really mean Virus. Caught it from daughter in law, who no doubt got it from the hospital She went for tests there. NOW I HAVE IT. FEEL JUST AWFUL!!!! I agree with you, we will develope our friendship along with others. Have a great day MY friend. :)

Hi alice. You are of course, right and wise as usual.

My problem is, and I have several rants about it somewhere, is the critique process at 2draw. As a professional art teacher I have some VERY strong feelings (possibly some of the strongest feeling I have about ANYTHING) about when and how critiques should be done. I have had feedback in private for years from people who got "slammed" over there and were afraid to draw again for fear of being made fun of. As someonme who has been giving profeessional critiques for my entire life (my mom used to have me crit her work when I was young) I know a bit about it and I honestly and truly understand what most beginning artists need. And it is not to be told that the eyes are crooked, unless they REQUEST that type of critique.

What the beginning or returning artist needs is just lots of general or even specific encouragement. Please, if you ever have the time, read the comments on my profile here and you will see how many people have come to me and thanked me for my role in giving them the confidence to draw more or draw again. I could EASILY critique every drawing here, there and every where. I have an eye, I know LOTS about art, it is what I know best and have studied all of my life. I have made HELPING people of all ages learn to be successful artists my LIFES WORK!!!! So If I dont give critical critiques unless specifically asked for, then there is a reason why. Too many beginners get discouraged and have thin skins and that is just a fact.

I don't want to be the one who hurts their feelings or makes them give up there quest to make art or at least try the best they can.

I have seen over and over again at 2draw, and yes, I have been looking in from time to time since i joined, people who just start telling the artist HOW they should do THEIR work even tho the artist has not asked for their opinion or "lesson".

It is just 2 different schools of thought, but when I have people come to me and thank me, lots and lots of people here and at YouDraw, for my encouragement and then get private emails and messages from folks who have had their feelings hurt "eleswhere"....well..I know what road I will continue to go down.

That is the ONLY reason that I hold a grudge against 2draw. There are some LOVELY supportive people there and obviously some of the best online artists anywhere. That is a given also.

On a personal, for Gerry only level, I enjoyed the nice, supportive easy going group we once had here. Time is limited for everyone and I know that
i simply do not have the time to look at friends galleries at 2draw, floating ginko, doodlebug, youdraw and sketchfu. So if my friends scatter to the drawing site winds, it will be very difficult timewise to stay in touch and that is why personally, on a SOCIAL LEVEL, I feel that an artist is "lost" to me when they leave FU. I don't blame or fault anyone, the drawing programs and lack of lag and presence of so many FINE incredible artists at other sites is certainly a draw. I am just sad to know I cannot "see" as many friends as I used to be able to here and at UDraw. Thats all. Well I am still long winded *L*

I don't think so Alice. If it is because I used your first name, I got that from a comment on your page.

Thanks for the cheers and centainly your comment on my color and draw.
Also Alice thanks for the add. :) Barbara

Thanks Alice! I dont know the greatful daed but I thought it was a song- sounds like "you got the tiger by the tail and you cant let go!" hugs
Chris

Thank you amagic2 for the nice comment you left on my "Happy Birthday Erica" draw. I appreciate it very much.

Your Welcome! Keep those colors flowing! Happy Valentines Day! :-)

Hey chica where the hell you been? Been on the last few days. God is the shit stirring really bad? Imma be on tommorow's my peep. Luv's to yous bffl.

And since when have people have been using my term sweeting? How the hell did that happen? Friggen 'ell.

Thank you again amagic, for the cheer and comment for my "mermaid" draw....I really appreciate it! Thanks also, for telling me about the "merworld" gallery at the "YouDraw" website.....I used to draw there in 2005....I'll "check out" that gallery. Thanks again!!

Thank you amagic, for the cheers and comments....I really do appreciate it!! I really enjoy looking at your artwork....you have a very "unique" style of drawing....it's really "cool"!!

You are welcome Alice. You know that i have always loved your work. :)
Feel free to cheer mine too *L*
Are you aware I sent a letter to Barb thru 2Draw memo system?
Quite a while back. She never responded.

Hi amagic2u....I want to thank you for "adding" me....I really appreciate it!! "Happy Holidays" to you!!

Hi Alice! I'm very well thanks! Hows about yourself? Check out my latest drawing! :o) X

Willy is back and open for business come and play!

Thanks for adding me! Visit my gallery anytime and welcome.

Thank You Alice- your message was lovely! I know how hard it is to keep track at theis place, but I spose I must be addicted to it! Seasons greetings to you and your family, and may 2008 bring you fun and happiness and joy... from one shero to another ;-) Chris

Heyy Sweeting! Long time no speak chick! :P I've only just come across this site today you know!lol Hope you are all good anyways! :o) xxxx

Happy Belated Thanksgiving Alice.

check out my drawings and tell me wat u think! make sure you watch them at 4 speed!

I will look but forgot Barbs name there? I will save the draw and do it right after Lilys daughter. Which hopefully will be soon, I have been very unfocused lately.

Alice would it be ok if I tried to draw her? I have a pic of lilys lil girl that I want to do too if I can ever get focused! I could save this to my HD and then have it when I am ready to do it in case u are going to change avatars. I won't save it til i hear from you. She just has such a lively expression and beautiful even features and the most gorgeous skin tones. Plus, well, ok, I know she is yours!! *G*

Thats my grandaughter my partner in crime and the love of my life..thank you so much for all your kind words

I have to leave a comment on this little girl of your avatars. She is so cute. :)

I cannot do a straigh tline. You might have to ask christine mb. i never mastered it. Thanks for the compliment on the draws. Sorry to sound short but on my way out of town for 3 days. The FU is the lil pink face with the Antennas at the top of the page. We all draw it. There is a gallery i started called FUWorld with some of the pics in there. I have a lot of FU's in my gallery. I love them. You did the add on draws right. The problem is that several versions go around at once! Have a great weekend, glad you are here!! Talk to ya when i get back. :*S*

THANKS GERRY she is a true beauty. Barb did one of her at 2draw

She is amazingly gorgeous. if I were better at portraits I would ask to draw her.

lol- some people delete there works in progress- but I like watching the changes- fascinating to see how people draw!

cheers back alice! a loud shout over the horizon too you! great to see you about! Hugs!

Hi amagic2u,I'm from YD too.I'm glad to see you here.Can I add you as a friend ?

Ho ho, you tere, you. Girly you. Howya doin' eh? :D

Welcome alice. was happy to see your name here *S* I see she takes after grandma and swims!! Totally gorgeous! If you look at my profile you will find more YouDrawers here too. blorg is Pickle Wickle. The others have the same names. There are several keyboard commands that make the program easier to draw with. there are no layers or masks, but you can still do very wonderful work here with these tools. P is color palette. E is a color picker (hover cursor over brush you want and press E and wait a sec) Arrow < and > make colors opaque with each tap. Z is undo. [ is bigger brush and ] is smaller. Hope you enjoy it here. The people are amazingly nice and supportive.

Hi there! thanks for adding me! returning the compliment!

Hi, good to see you! Adorable avatar!! Adding you as my friend, hope you don't mind. :)